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00:15 < shawn_work> jkolb: what do you do @ WSI :)
00:15 < shawn_work> <- weather nut
00:22 < jkolb_> shawn_work: write the software that meteorologists use to create the scenes and stuff you see on tv (TWC, CNN, most fox affiliates etc.)
00:25 < jkolb_> shawn_work: it's mostly fixing bugs right now as we're releasing soon. it's pretty fun. i don't know much about the weather though
00:30 < shawn_work> yummy
00:30 < shawn_work> jkolb: i want to write a interactive gui like The Weather Network in Canada, The Weather Channel has during their 10 minute local forecast info
00:31 < shawn_work> and have warnings flash on your kicker/panel
00:34 < jkolb_> shawn_work: that sounds cool.  I haven't seen any of the canadian stuff.
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10:43 < caro> is there some benchmarks that compare nv and nouveau ?
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14:05 < rem> hi
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15:20 < marcheu> caro: no
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15:51 < caro> marcheu: I have xorg 6.8 with the nv driver. Do you think that I should update to xorg 7.1 with nouveau as driver ?
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16:50 < davFr> hi! do we know if the actual nv driver is still derived work from the non-obfuscated nv driver in xfree 3.3 ? regards.
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18:09 < marcheu> ok, well
18:09 < marcheu> it seems I can start/stop another fifo now
18:10 < marcheu> and it seems as if the 2nd fifo's pointers move
18:10 < marcheu> davFr: it's derived from the same codebase, but it's diverged a fair bit with the years
18:14 < Duke`> marcheu : does these things are related to the interrupt stuff?
18:15 < EdB|w> marcheu, this is a big step, isn't it ?
18:15 < marcheu> Duke`: you bet they are !
18:15 < marcheu> EdB|w: yup
18:15 < EdB|w> nice
18:15 < EdB|w> :o)
18:15 < Duke`> \o/
18:15 < darktama_> marcheu: what was missing?
18:16 < marcheu> darktama_: I'll commit the current stuff in a moment
18:16 < marcheu> however, it seems that it stomps over the 2D context, so that context restore thing is needed
18:16 < marcheu> darktama_: but it's not a 1-liner if that's what you're going to ask :)
18:17 < darktama_> hehe, I didn't think it would be :)  shame about the context save/restore, that's a pain
18:21 < EdB|w> i was thinking that nv card can have multi context without the need to save, does i misunderstod ?
18:24 < marcheu> ok, doesn't work 100% of the time though
18:25 < darktama_> EdB|w: that doesn't seem to be the case on older cards
18:25 < EdB|w> oh
18:26 < EdB|w> and older start from  ?
18:26 < darktama_> not sure, I've only been looking at nv40..
18:26 < EdB|w> erf nv40 are older ...
18:27 < darktama_> no, on nv40 it looks like the hw might help with context save/restore.. not 100% certain yet
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18:30 < jkolb> hm. git is telling me i have to resolve the current index before i can git-pull the drm
18:31 < jkolb> how do i fix that?
18:31 < marcheu> git pull  origin nouveau-1
18:31 < darktama_> ahh, is that how it's done :) I always have trouble pulling drm changes
18:32 < marcheu> well, either you pull master's changes, i.e "git pull" and have to resolve whatever happens (although I'm not sure how) or you git pull a spezcific branch
18:34 < marcheu> also, the context switch interrupt is _not_ called when context switches work
18:35 < darktama_> hm, that's interesting..
18:36 < darktama_> so, what happens when you need to save/restore state?
18:37 < marcheu> no idea
18:37 < marcheu> hmm I only get fifo errors now..
18:37 < marcheu> it really works eratically
18:37 < marcheu> do we know how to get more accurate information than just "fifo error" ?
18:38 < darktama_> well.. for FIFO errors that are caused by bad methods in the FIFO, you read CACHE1_GET, and use the value as an index into CACHE1_METHOD/DATA to find out what method/value caused the error
18:39 < marcheu> hmm right, maybe reading CACHE1_GET will point to lala-land in the first place
18:40 < darktama_> note: CACHE1_GET won't be the same as the DMA pointers
18:42 < marcheu> darktama_: how does the code behave on your nv40 ?
18:43 < darktama_> your latest drm?
18:43 < marcheu> yup
18:43 < marcheu> I tried to retain your latest changes in
18:43 < marcheu> but since I added more stuff on top..
18:44 < darktama_> I'll test it in a minute or two
18:45 < jkolb> marcheu: thanks. i had to blast a makefile and the drm-pciids.txt file and then check them out before i did the pull
18:48 < darktama_> marcheu: ok, it works as well as it did before
18:55 < marcheu> hmm, I think it works when there was the proprietary driver loaded before
18:55 < marcheu> even if there's a reboot in between
18:55 < darktama_> just like my 3D code.. still haven't tracked that down :(
18:59 < marcheu> well that's something already :)
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19:31 < steev> it somewhat works here - on an NV11
19:32 < steev> (the proprietary nvidia-legacy-drivers just give me a black screen so kudos)
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20:37 < rindolf> Hi all.
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22:27 < marcheu> hi rindolf 
22:27 < marcheu> steev: "somewhat" means ?
22:28 < rindolf> Hi marcheu 
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23:06 < jkolb> i just tried nouveau and it definitely did not work
23:18 < marcheu> hmm, any idea why ?
23:24 < rindolf> jkolb: do you know why?
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23:49 < jkolb> not sure. it brought x up, crashed, repeated a few times, and when going back to the console it did the funny 'console is all messed up and in the upper half of the screen thing'
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23:49 < marcheu> jkolb: did you keep the Xorg.0.log ?
23:49 < marcheu> jkolb: anything interesting in dmesg ? 
23:49 < jkolb> ahhh there's a fifo dump in the log
23:50 < jkolb> my dmesg doesn't save across reboots
23:50 < marcheu> in /var/log/messages usually
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23:54 < jkolb> nothing exciting in that log... just nouveau detecting my memory a lot
23:54 < jkolb> and initializing fifo0
23:54 < marcheu> and the Xorg log ? it's the most interesting usuall
23:54 < marcheu> usually
23:56 < jkolb> looks ok until the fifo dump
23:57 < marcheu> is there a backtrace ?
23:57 < jkolb> note that before i ran gdm x started up fine with just typing X
23:57 < marcheu> can you upload it somewhere ?
23:58 < jkolb> marcheu: http://people.brandeis.edu/~jkolb/Xorg.0.log.old
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