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02:20 < jkolb> what's pll mean in the bios code?
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02:21 < airlied> pll = phase locked loop... which doesn't probably help you :-)
02:21 < jkolb> haha nope ;) is it a frame sync thing?
02:22 < jkolb> it's not the most descriptive code...
02:24 < airlied> pll are used to setup te clocks ...
02:24 < airlied> so you have some sort of fixed input clock and you need to get a variable output clock,
02:25 < airlied> you feed it through some plls which you can set to certian values to produce the final clock..
02:25 < airlied> so there are PLLs for the pixel clock, for memory clocks etc..
02:28 < jkolb> ok that makes sense
02:28 < marcheu> jkolb: nvclock knows more about the PLLs than we do
02:29 < marcheu> in case you're interested in that code
02:33 < jkolb> i take it it's important for the cold boot?
02:33 < marcheu> well there's a bios opcode that touches PLLs which we don't understand yet
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02:52 < jkolb> is the new nvclock any help?
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03:09 < marcheu> jkolb: nvclock only figures out memory/core clocks, but I guess we could derive other information from there
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04:07 < marcheu> hmm
04:07 < marcheu> was the pixelclock code changed recently ?
04:09 < marcheu> I'm getting the weird "insufficient bandwidth" lines
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08:03 < hiyuh_work> hmm, FSF will do prop-up DRI?
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09:46 < darktama> airlied: that desk of yours.. wow, I thought mine was bad :)
09:47 < airlied> darktama: hehe.. my laptop is my main workstation :-) everything else for testing!!
09:48 < darktama> ahh, I see... it's a workable excuse anyway!
09:49 < airlied> darktama: hopefully moving apartments soon, will get room for office..
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18:55 < darktama> marcheu: have you started on the abstraction layer stuff yet?
18:59 < marcheu> darktama: yes and no, I was trying to fit 2D stuff in it as well
18:59 < marcheu> I'm starting to wonder if it'd be really useful or not
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19:09 < darktama> marcheu: yeah, I'm concerned we're going to make things *more* difficult for ourselves
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19:10 < marcheu> ok, I guess we're reaching the same conclusions then
19:11 < marcheu> just one thing, I'd like card-specific implementations to be clearly put in separated files
19:11 < marcheu> like nv30_exa.c
19:11 < darktama> yup, that's what I've done here
19:12 < marcheu> ok
19:12 < darktama> I'm tempted to start on video, but I think I'd rather wait until I can get it working without depending on nvidia's drivers to do the init
19:16 < darktama> how many implementations would we need btw?  I think we could handle NV30/NV40/G70 with a single chunk of code, not sure about earlier cards
19:17 < marcheu> I'll do nv04 up to nv18 with the nv04 3D object
19:17 < marcheu> then nv20 is left
19:17 < darktama> ok, that's not so bad then
19:17 < marcheu> we have the 2D code as a fallback anyway
19:18 < darktama> true
19:18 < darktama> btw, for some reason UTS/DFS breaks when using NV30_TCL_PRIMITIVE_3D.. not quite sure why yet.. any ideas?
19:19 < marcheu> hmm not really
19:20 < darktama> the DMA actually works from what I can tell, at least, the notifier gets changed.. but, the FIFO stalls soon afterwards
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19:46 < marcheu> darktama: do the DMA src/dst area and the PRIMITIVE_3D areas overlap ?
19:46 < marcheu> hmm UTS/DFS is supposed to wait for completion anyway
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20:11 < darktama> marcheu: yeah, I'm thinking that perhaps the 3D engine is rendering *before* UTS/DFS
20:11 < darktama> my code doesn't have much in the way of synchronisation at the moment..
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20:52 < _caro> hey
20:52 < _caro> i've read on the web site that exa was broken (10th september)
20:52 < _caro> is it the case, now ?
20:53 < _caro> i would like to test it with my gforce 2 gts (if this card can use the acceleration of some render features)
20:54 < _caro> marcheu: un francais :) tu bosses ou, a Strasbourg ?
20:55 < phh> _caro, la plupart des devs sont francais :p
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20:56 < _caro> phh: comme sur avisynth 3.0 :)
20:56 < phh> connait po
20:56 < _caro> serveur de frame pour faire de l'edition video non lineaire
20:57 < phh>  tes souhaits.
20:57 < _caro> tres connu sous windows
20:57 < _caro> merci
20:57 < phh> (bon dtf moi la vido  part un mencoder ou ffmpeg j'en fais pas.)
20:57 < _caro> ben voila, avisynth peut s'utiliser avec mencoder
20:58 < _caro> ou ffmpeg
20:58 < _caro> bon, et exa dans nouveau, c'est toujours casse ?
20:58 < phh> mon dernier essai date de fin aout moi
20:58  * jkolb is taken back to his french classes in high school
20:58 < _caro> jkolb: hey hey :) You're here ! I didn't know
20:59 < jkolb> _caro: I am everywhere ;)
20:59 < _caro> :)
20:59 < _caro> jkolb: i bet you have an nvidia card :)
20:59 < jkolb> _caro: that i do
21:02 < jkolb> phh: so exa broke only a couple of weeks ago.. so is the cause known?
21:02 < phh> let's see commits
21:06 < phh> i don't refind ...
21:06 < phh> maybe it is no longer ? :)
21:06 < _caro> http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/NoveauCompanion_3a  <-- it's there
21:07 < jkolb> there were a ton of changes at the end of august/beginning of september
21:08 < jkolb> phh: http://gitweb.freedesktop.org/?p=nouveau/xf86-video-nouveau.git;a=shortlog
21:10 < _caro> indeed
21:11 < phh> i still don't see blocking commits ...
21:12 < phh> now let's see the companion page
21:12 < darktama> _caro: that link is referring to an exa implementation that isn't in CVS, it's only on my machine currently
21:12 < darktama> it uses the 3D engine for X11 drawing instead of the 2D engine
21:12 < phh> ho...
21:12 < phh> i see ...
21:12 < marcheu> _caro: yes, strasbourg
21:12 < darktama> CVS should work fine
21:12 < marcheu> _caro: illkirch, more precisely
21:12 < phh> darktama, git no longer cvs :p
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21:13 < darktama> hehe, cvs.. git.. same difference :)
21:14 < _caro> marcheu: i've worked in Strasbourg (in the university, and with some computer scitists too)
21:15 < marcheu> _caro: oh really ? I'm doing a phd in CS here
21:15 < marcheu> but gtg now
21:15 < _caro> a+
21:15 < _caro> btw, i have to go too
21:16 < phh> darktama, do you have an internal CVS with external anonymous access ? :D
21:16 < darktama> I'm using git, but haven't published that branch.. trust me, you don't want to use it yet either :)
21:17 < phh> just report not known bugs p:
21:19 < darktama> I'll probably commit something once I fix the major issues (so it's actually usable)
21:19 < darktama> but for now, I must sleep
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22:24 < stillunknown> encountered the first "normal" app today which works well with nvidia drivers and does not with nouveau
22:26 < stillunknown> it seems qt4 relies more on renderaccel than other toolkits
22:28 < stillunknown> does anyone experience similar things? (the app in question is texmaker-1.40)
22:28 < phh> stillunknown, i had some troubles on Qt4 with nvidia drivers some time ago
22:28 < phh> (font didn't appeared iirc)
22:29 < stillunknown> the app behaves well on nvidia drivers
22:29 < stillunknown> as does it under the open source radeon drivers
22:30 < phh> stillunknown, what's the problem ?
22:30 < stillunknown> windows lag, even under light load
22:31 < stillunknown> even making a newline does sometime
22:31 < phh> huhu
22:31 < stillunknown> *sometimes
22:31 < phh> maybe try vesa
22:31 < phh> just to see
22:31 < stillunknown> not atm, will try later
22:32 < stillunknown> like i said, there are signs that qt4 uses more renderaccel than usual things do
22:32 < phh> stillunknown, yes i confirm that
22:32 < stillunknown> brb
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23:59 < mat__> hi, I put nv10 dump on http://castet.matthieu.free.fr/nvidia/
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