--- Log opened Чтв Авг 17 00:00:15 2006
00:01 < pmdata> nv40 still has single vertex param
00:02 < pmdata> arg, megaboulette dans nv_objects.h
00:03 < pmdata> I copy/pasted defines too fastly yesterday
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00:14 < pmdata> better now
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00:43 < pmdata1> ah the zombie died
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00:53 < marcheu> pmdata: btw I'll try to install the 4xxx driver before tomorrow
00:53 < marcheu> I've got 4496, is that OK ?
00:53 < marcheu> oh, 4620 as well
00:53  * marcheu prepares to do some kernel source patching...
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01:06 < pmdata> I hope it they will be old enough to have vertex weighting (I know 4191 still have it, besides not listing the extension)
01:06 < pmdata> ping stringfellow
01:06 < stringfellow> yes?
01:07 < pmdata> do you know if I can use wine to trace a win32 program reading a data file (i.e. open, seek, read, write, close)
01:07 < stringfellow> sure
01:07 < pmdata> how do I do that?
01:08 < stringfellow> I don't know if the default debugchannels dump the contents as well, but it would be relatively easy to add
01:09 < stringfellow> well, you have to determine what functions you want to monitor first
01:10 < stringfellow> running with WINEDEBUG="+relay" will give you pretty much all calls the program makes, except COM stuff, but it's likely more than you really want
01:14 < stringfellow> WINEDEBUG="+file" should show a lot of file handling related stuff
01:14 < stringfellow> though probably not contents
01:16 < pmdata> I just need to know how the program read data from the file
01:16 < stringfellow> +file should probably be enough then
01:16 < marcheu> pmdata: what did you find ?
01:16 < marcheu> some interesting win32 app ? :)
01:17 < marcheu> pmdata: maybe strace is enough for what you want to do
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01:23 < pmdata> marcheu> this is not nv related, sorry :)
01:24 < pmdata> this is a game I like, I would like to know the data file format
01:24 < pmdata> who was this guy that have a bunch of quadros cards?
01:26 < pmdata> stringfellow> yep currently I have a 270MB dump
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01:50 < Keltor> :)
01:50 < marcheu> hmm ?
01:51 < Keltor> we were talking about this in another channel
01:51 < marcheu> heh
01:54 < b33fc0d3> any gentoo users here ?
01:55 < marcheu> I think darktama even has the cloak
01:57 < Keltor> not only that
01:58 < Keltor> he's in the channel we came from
01:58 < marcheu> arghh gentoo users invade :)
01:58 < Keltor> i'm a keltor linux user at the moment
01:59 < drantin> the march of the gentoo...
01:59 < Keltor> yeah
02:00 < Keltor> though it was a sad march last week
02:00  * drantin imagines short penguins marching off a cliff
02:00 < Keltor> a truck headed to Galveston Texas's zoo
02:00 < Keltor> overturned
02:00 < Keltor> and killed 3 Gentoos
02:00 < drantin> is it bad that my first reaction, even after seeing the bit about the zoo, was whether there were any salvagable parts?
02:00 < Keltor> oddly Gentoos are the really exciting penguins at the moment for researchers
02:01 < Keltor> salvagable parts from the truck
02:01 < Keltor> or from the penguins ...
02:01 < drantin> was thinking of computers..
02:01 < Keltor> were their computers on the truck too??
02:01 < drantin> <_<
02:02 < Keltor> oh yeah
02:02  * Keltor isn't very fast today ...
02:02  * Keltor is ill.
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02:10 < marcheu> darktama: btw when you don't need the nv28, I think pmdata would be happy that I switch for a nv1x, so tell me when you're done with it
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03:00 < airlied> anyone know why the "binary" driver might go into forceSW mode...
03:01 < marcheu> indirect rendering
03:01 < marcheu> that usually happens through a mesa libgl
03:11 < airlied> yeah I've got direct rendering though or at least glxinfo says I do..
03:12 < airlied> I'm sure it's something stupid, we built this system from scratch... I'll let the minions keep looking :-)
03:13 < marcheu> well, if you've got all nvidia_drv.so, libglx.so, libGL and libGLCore installed...
03:14 < marcheu> the last 3 pieces are usually responsible for weird issues... especially when they get installed at the wrong location (/usr/X11R6/lib changed /usr/lib/xorg for example)
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03:25 < airlied> hmm it seems to happen if you glxinfo from a console to a running X server.. must investigate..
03:25 < marcheu> airlied: ah
03:25 < marcheu> that means the server is not visible on the VT
03:25 < airlied> yup...
03:25 < marcheu> yes, it's like that
03:25 < marcheu> you have to have it visible if you want hw commands to be sent
03:26  * marcheu has the Xserver visible on the headless test machine :)
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05:23 < th0ma7> hi anyone?
05:24 < marcheu> 3am, but, yeah
05:25 < th0ma7> lol
05:25 < marcheu> so ?
05:26 < th0ma7> i was checking the tests section of the project and I noticed that it seems there are no NV60 (6xxx) dumps ..
05:26 < marcheu> 6xxx is nv40
05:26 < th0ma7> ah.. i see.. 
05:26 < marcheu> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_NVIDIA_Graphics_Processing_Units
05:27 < marcheu> what's your card ?
05:27 < th0ma7> fx6800 128mb.
05:28 < th0ma7> I think I was talking to you about an access to a few quadro cards also at my job... on which I could run basics tests on...
05:28 < marcheu> ah
05:28 < marcheu> yes, that would be interesting
05:28 < th0ma7> but since I'll be on vacation next week it might take a bit of time ... but I'll do it for sure..
05:29 < th0ma7> Is it worth resending a dump using the latest renouveau package?
05:29 < marcheu> on what card ?
05:29 < th0ma7> note that I also got a quick acces to a geforce go 5650
05:29 < th0ma7> depends... what would you need?
05:29 < marcheu> well, if it's with a quadro card, we're interested in all the tests
05:30 < th0ma7> note that I even can get acces to my old geforce 2 pro tx what ever... and to a ti 4200
05:30 < marcheu> maybe the Ho 5650 would be nice.. we never tried it
05:30 < th0ma7> I think I had sent it to you onto your web site.. 
05:30 < marcheu> the 5600 tests ?
05:30 < th0ma7> But it takes only a few secs to dump it back... yup the 5650 go.
05:31 < marcheu> ok, so it looked like a normal 5600...
05:31 < marcheu> but yeah, quadro results would be very nice
05:31 < th0ma7> funny... i used to have a 5600 agp 128mb... if it had'nt crammed I would have be interested of comparing both of'em
05:31 < marcheu> you should try to see with pmdata, he's in charge on most of the RE'ing going on
05:32 < th0ma7> when is he online?
05:32 < marcheu> well... from what we can see (ie 3D action) all nv30 look the same
05:32 < marcheu> nope, he's in france as well, and since it's 3am, he's sleeping :)
05:32 < th0ma7> alors dit donc.. on parle francais dans le coin?
05:32 < th0ma7> lol
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05:33 < marcheu> I think a couple of people speak french in here yeah..
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05:33 < th0ma7> i'm from quebec, canada... :)
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05:33 < th0ma7> and we do speak also in french... 
05:34 < philv> Quebec City?
05:34 < marcheu> yup, I know :)
05:34  * philv is in Ottawa
05:34 < th0ma7> nope.. montreal
05:34 < philv> Ah
05:35 < th0ma7> So I'll try to gather some quadro dumps before the end of the week... and I'll come back with a few dumps.
05:35 < marcheu> th0ma7: anyway, if you can see ith pmdata, he might have some extra tests for you
05:35 < marcheu> I think he'd like to see stereo tests as well
05:35 < marcheu> and a couple of other things
05:35 < th0ma7> fine.. noprob.
05:35 < th0ma7> could send him my office email address?
05:35 < marcheu> best would be to catch him, he's usually in here on french evenings (which is approximately 7 hours ago to 3 hours ago)
05:36 < th0ma7> that would make things a lot easier.
05:36 < marcheu> he reads the log, so he'll see anything you say here :)
05:36 < th0ma7> does a lot of peeps has acces to this logs (meaning will I get spammed right after it?)
05:37 < marcheu> like, the whole internet ? :)
05:37 < th0ma7> like.
05:37 < marcheu> yeah
05:37 < marcheu> http://lumag.spb.ru/nouveau/irclogs/
05:37 < th0ma7> humm...
05:37 < marcheu> well, you can do some obfuscation, I don't think spambots are _that_ clever
05:38 < th0ma7> yeah... you're right..
05:39 < th0ma7> pmdata:  If you want to get in touch to gather a few specifics quadro dumps send me an email at vincent dot fortier1 at ec dot gc dot ca
05:39 < th0ma7> that should do it?
05:39 < marcheu> yep, that's just fine, thanks for your help :)
05:39 < marcheu> actually
05:39 < marcheu> merci vinvent
05:39 < marcheu> grr
05:39 < marcheu> merci vincent
05:40 < th0ma7> au plaisir!
05:40  * marcheu is tired
05:40 < th0ma7> good night!
05:40 < marcheu> night
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07:57 < darktama> marcheu: I'm done with the nv28 for now, if I need anything else I can work from dumps
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10:49 < marcheu> ok
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14:29 < Duke`> hi
14:30 < marcheu> hi
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18:05 < littlesniper> dammit ! its been a while and now its so crowded !! ;]
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21:34 < pmdata> hello
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22:08 < KoalaBR> pmdata: Hello
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22:15 < marcheu> hi pmdata, did you see the log ?
22:18 < KoalaBR> marcheu: Hm, I had a look at the Wiki docs. Seems that I can't upload already existing HTML pages?
22:18 < marcheu> hi KoalaBR 
22:18 < marcheu> hm
22:19 < KoalaBR> Hi
22:19 < marcheu> I don't really know much about that wiki, or wikis in gnral
22:20 < KoalaBR> Bad Luck
22:20 < marcheu> I have to go now
22:20 < KoalaBR> Ok
22:20 < KoalaBR> Bye
22:33 < pmdata> marcheu> yes, mail sent
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22:43 < KoalaBR> pmdata: Is there anything I could try to test / find out? Regarding the externsions I'm a bit lost
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22:48 < KoalaBR> pmdata: Is there anything I could try to test / find out? Regarding the externsions I'm a bit lost, did the line stipple today
22:58 < pmdata> did you try point sprite on nv40?
22:59 < KoalaBR> No, which test is it?
23:00 < pmdata> test_nv_point_sprite
23:00 < pmdata> you could also try test_single_vertex
23:00 < KoalaBR> Ok, will do, thanks :)
23:00 < pmdata> hint: always enable test_startup and test_default, so it would remove just in the following tests
23:01 < pmdata> and uncomment the output to file in re.c
23:01 < pmdata> s/just/junk/
23:01 < KoalaBR> Fine
23:01 < KoalaBR> Do you know how to upload existing html pages to the wiki?
23:06 < Duke`> maybe you should write and run a little script which converts HTML to wiki syntax
23:08 < KoalaBR> Oh no....
23:09 < KoalaBR> It would be easier to upload the html to sf and link to it. Would still be "official" content :)
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23:58 < pmdata> I hope to get many quadro dumps this night
23:59 < KoalaBR> Finally :)
23:59 < KoalaBR> I'm making slow progress for point_sprite
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